thanks for the coments first sorry for late reply been in bed for the last week ill so no updates either i wouldn't say it's that good as there are plenty places need refineing but i'm improveing i thing as i redo bits time ..yup i have plenty time on my hands but saying that the bottom arm thats in the split screen grab{{ last pic}} took about 10/15 mins to make due to trying diffrent ways of modeling it now i have the method it would take about 3/5 mins hopefully i'll get some update done this weekend