looking good so far Zyk0tiK!! 4 hours on the hand? thats just ok! im pushing 6 or 7 hours on a foot for my pinup girl and im still not sadisfied. being a beginner with maya is pretty hard.. the program can do all that amazing stuff and you just want to dive into it all at once (memories of the little rooms filled with plastic balls in McDonalds flashing by). Take your time.. the learning curve is steap at some points, but eventually, if you keep pushing you'll move above and beyond Looking forward to see more