Originally posted by gster123 Its because of the way thinigs are grouped together and where their pivot points are etc. If you go into the outliner and select the actual group rarther than the objects and them move the group they should stay together as its a new node. No, it's the reverse. The objects move fine when I move them one-by one, but when I select the entire group (in the outliner) that's when some objects move differently, which is weird. I wrote that I would submit an image, but I forgot to do that. I'll send it along with this post instead.