thanks David, I figured as much about using PS, no biggie , I just hate seeing those spots in my render yessir, I will be making this for real in the future, won't be until I get back to Thailand which is 6 months or so away, and I'll take pics of progress just like the model. Am actually glad I modeled it 1st as there are things I'll need to pay attention to when doing the actual construction. I know the render isn't the best yet, worried about learning the modeling and uv'ing first still have to get a grip on lighting, and some more with mental rey, which I'll have plenty more questions about but considering I've been a member here for several years and finally progressing on 1st model, think I'm ahead of the game thanks for the comments