Thank you for the NURBS definition. At least I am not sat there wandering about it! The problem with the resizing is strange. When I resize the object it jumps in stages of whole values and not 0. I can change the value in the scale. I get around the problem by clicking off the yellow box and clicking back on it, the scale then works ok. Weird......At least I can scale properly now. If there is any good tutorials that you guy's use it would be great to know of the good ones. I am animating a character at the moment and really enjoy it. ] There seems to be the character animation side and modeling side to Maya, I guess people specialise in either. Has anyone done a full cartoon or clip from start to finish? Z