hi R@nSiD [Chris], i prefer Maya software render and RenderMan, but in this case i used Mental ray render, because i did not satisfied with shadows with Maya software render. That's because is car to high, with an ambOccl shader (Mental Ray) as you can see i got nice clean shadows. Nurbs patches is my main geometry. Polygons (anyone can work with it, because you can learn polys with 2-3 days). My visa is: when you learned nurbs geo, the others geometry is peace of cake. so, i'll post 2 new thread now, that's nurbs also