ok so update so far finaly got a bit of webspace so heres what ive got so far not amazing but im realy pleased with it any c+c is more than welcome as always even had a go at doing door handle i think its pretty good for my first ever try lol i know the images seem a bit crushed but i dont know how to render with wireframes on :/ wire frame norm wire frame smoothed unwired norm unwired smoothed door handle