Yup, I think thats what happened! Went back last night and it seemed to work fine! I love the z shortcut working as redo, alot easier than ctrl+y! Are there any goods links for a cribsheet on the toolset? I was looking for the likes of selection tools like loop secet and edge select?! I'm going to google it when I get a chance, I seem to have built up long list of Maya links when I was looking for a body modelling tutorial that I could use with Cinema4D...