damn, sorry, didn't know i had replies, no emails received, thanx for comments, UndSeth- blue, green, pink yellow, didnt really matter it was just an attempt at the HDRI reflection Which apparently i've done wrong says BabyDuck- i thought i was to just map the image spherically onto the poly half sphere???, it's attached to the ambient and color node (how can ya tell its wrong?), as for the shadows... i havent quite got the hang of that yet so i left em 'simple'