Thought I'd post this one in here. After I created the tutorial David gave me permission to display it on other sites and do a small write up on how it was made for 3dtotal.com - it went on to get an award and was on the front page for a week, the same thing happened at CGArena.com too. It was a popular image. I will redo the fire with N-Particles or fluids now I have the new version of Maya.... But anyway I thought I'd briing it 'home' where it needs to be. cheers Jay