I had a great time. Wish I would have won that rendering book instead of the Maya Unlimited book I just got a tooth pulled so I have some extra time on my hands . I'll try your suggestions and post what the results were. Once again thanks for your help, I'll see you at Siggraph in a week, I'll be volunteering at balistic/******/cgtalks booth on the morning of the 10th and 12th stop by and say hi if u get the chance otherwise I am sure i'll see you around.

Kassun