Hey, thanks everyone for the help. Especially the ref pic, the only thing is, I HAVE LOOKED ON GOOGLE FOR SOME. I guess I was looking for to specific of an image. I was using the one posted below as a ref. But I guess it didint come out so well. I am kinda having trouble modeling free hand without a straight forward example. Any suggestions on that? But anyways, if someone could draw me one in a T pose, that would be fantastic, but that may be to much to do.