sry guys, been a while. here is a update/beginning. started doing the body of the x-jet. missing 4 of the wings yet. and looking at the x-jet - lol about hard surface modeling - the only hard faces i see on the x-jet might be the lines around cockpit. unless all non-organic is considered hard surface - not sure. crits welcome - don't be too harsh - its my first model in years .... duckie p.s.: call me duckie - i prefer that over BabyDuck p.p.s.: how do i insert a picture instead of the small thumbnail with the big preview thumbnail like all the other posts?