Thanks for the replies guys. Texturing and material work is something I really haven't done that much off and it's still pretty difficult. As you say arran it's trying to get rid of that brand new look.

Gect - yeah I know the whole guns thing, think it's time for me to move on. Just made one and liked and it became a habit.

Arran - cheers, the mat is just a texture file (2046 x 2046) with the colour tweaked in photoshop. Just plugged the same file straight into the bump and it came out fine. I've got loads of similar fabric textures from a bundle I got from somewhere.

cheers

gubar