Ok guys, I scrubbed it all, too much pissfarting around to get the frame to mesh with the fuselage.

So I did this (with an idea from paldav). Oh and I made an error, should have extruded and scale extruded 2 more times for my edges, Im a novice with a BIG L.

The pics explain what I did I hope. I didnt like extruding the front part or what I did before. So I made a small face extruded it (and made error) picked an edge, extruded both X and Y and extracted and made a live working plane (not the aircraft you should see its outline in the pics).

Then CV tool to get my shape on my plane, to poly etc and presto. I spent hours on it and made the mistake of NOT doing the incremental extrusions to create my edges. So It does look funky BUT I think the experiment worked and will use it again. I wont be doing this part of the frame again, too much trouble.

https://www.dropbox.com/gallery/40906...frame?h=c72cb0