Ah, ive seen the kings treasure challenge,but not looked through the gallery yet. Im still trying to improve my kitchen scene. Just taking like, a render, 20 mins, then making a small change,20 mins etc,just getting familiar with different photon/gi/fg settings. Am in a pub at the minute celebrating englands (and the usa's) advance in the world cup. You guys finished above us!! Unheard of! I want to download the lighthouse scene first i think. So much goodness.