Sorry about the delay. I recently found employment after 7 months of sitting around the house. I'm still at it though trying to light this dam thing correctly. I played around with Maxwell - WOW there is a lot to that program! but figured I would go back and play with Mental Ray. I changed the lights to directional and am able to get (what I think) a not bad picture. The only issue is that it looks good in the Render View but when I save it out to a jpg file - It looks like crap. Any ideas on that one? This is what it is: I have seen what you all can do and completely understand that this rendering thing takes time to understand but I believe I'm missing something - Setting wise? Using the wrong lighting? But I'm plugging away at it. Watching tutorials where I can to help understand all the settings that I can adjust but can't seem to get there. Thanks, Scott