ya the chat is getting there LOL moving this site is a bitch !!!! and the re-design well you know what its like every time we think we are all most done some one comes up with another idea Big plans for the chat though hopefully if will be pretty busy after the move I cant find an IRC service provider that i like so i might just set up my own ircd and IM services when i finish the 2000000 other things to do around here Dave PS nice AIM nick LOL