thx for the comments alpha...but arent the eyebrows enough indication of hair? hehe. The truth is hair is a pain to do, if nothing else for the rendering times required. I could paint something to give indication of hair/pores or something, I dont want to dirty him up too much though. Also, a lot of the skin detail is lost because the camera is not close enough, so I didnt want to spend too much time on that. Perhaps adding different tones in areas where there would be more hair...i'll see.