Wow. See, I don't know what anything says in that last expression. I have got to get a book on this stuff and learn. I feel left out! Dannyngan - how do you go about masking? I searched a little and read something about using stencils, but I can't get it to work. I probably won't use it, but if I do, I'll need to know how to do it. Thanks for all your helps guys!