@ mastone ..Yes I agree with the shoulders being a littly blocky so trying to make them flow right into the arms a little better, in regards to the blank spot between the chest and abs I still need to add the serratus but in the process of doing that but will have an update hopefully tommorow evning , just been tweeking the hands slighlty and finishing off the fingers.

not looking forward to the head modelling as it seems to be a real sticking point with me in terms of prportions

jason