Yeah good mate, you'll freeze your ring if you sit in it too long been snowball fighting with my girls today in the garden, it just wont stop!! I want to get out fishing for christ sakes but all the lakes are frozen over, looks like I'll have to wait until February. Anyway yeah been doing this model and trying to get new renders out for Outlaws next page, just time isnt allowing me lots right now due to work...us VFX guys work hard, coffee n cake all day followed by end of themonth p*** ups!! I dunno Best Jay