I downloaded the 3ds Max Trial this morning. And to add on to the horror, I actually like it. Of course, its not Maya, but its pretty cool. I just don't like the Extrude Edge thing, its crap compared to Maya's Extrude Edge. Well... it seems a lot harder then Maya to learn. Do we have any Maya/Max users here that would like to give me some tips I would much appreciate it ThAnKs In AdVaNcE Cheers, ,Matt