Thanks for the replies guys. I have attached a pic of the wooden model that i am basing it on with the ghost of what i have done so far. I know the body is way out and the tail is but i havn`t touched them much. And i`m glad i`m not the only one to think it looks more like a compy but i`m working on that. I`m a REAL newbe as you can tell but i have been getting into 3d for about a month and on this model for just about a week so i think i am doing quite well at the mo. Thanks for the pic Kurt, gives me some thing to work on and if you don`t mind me asking but how long does it take roughly to make a model like that ? I know i got a LONG way to go yet As i have said this is a very basic model at the mo but i`m getting there.