Kurt, you are my new best friend! I was grabbing the root joint in the outliner, but there was no group node parenting it. I have gotten it to work thanks to your description. And Mike, thanks for your reply too. I will be telling every Maya user who asks me about web resources to check out Simply Maya - I get more results from the guys in this community than the Alias Wavefront Official E-Support website. Hope I can contribute more when I get more experienced. And Mike, Ive checked out your tutorial site too - very helpful as well. Dan:banana: