Originally posted by spakooggie now thats a nice rear.loving that very very much nice proportions some nice shapes i would say thats really good.and the handles are so much better then before this is turning out very nice. wish i could get my concepts to look this good when i try and make them on maya o'well ill stick to making my tanks lol. thanx man you can your concepts to look even better all it takes is time and a lot of patience..........a lot.