hey mat thanks for replying, probably should have mentioned earlier that i tried that and it worked a bit but theres just too many areas to put spheres and cubes with the hair and with the hair make collide spehre and cube u cant change the vertices of them only the scale and translate rotate, etc.

I have kind of fixed the problem tho by using fur attractors from previous versions of maya below version 7, by typing in
HfCreateAttractor; in the mel command line seeing as they aren't in any menu from maya 7 or up, with these i have been able to collide with the geometry the attractors are sitting on shitload more tweaking to do tho...

oh eh i'm studying advanced diploma of CGI