wow it was my birthday on the 17th of august im 17 now . not an other robot :headbang: i now have a tablet for my pc and am playin around with that any way thats my excuse for no updates . it's all rigged but i aint a good rigger so no animation any more. oh and i have the orc tutorial from here to practise so there wont be any updates for a while (bout a week or 2). osz bout this i will add weapons and go into overdrive modeling after i have finished the lipsync of the orc