Originally posted by WynterNyght Thanks for the picture Ben. Your right it is less obtrusive than mod tool. It wouldnt be a bad thing if i used the maya ple, to work out the rust since i havent used it in quite some time. Though i couild you both apps one to model the other to render. usually with PLE's you cant export to a common file format, to prevent people then getting someone else to render the scene for them Not sure about mod tolls though I know the maya PLE can open some common file formats but it cant export them