To market as a designer is different from sales mentality that a pure marketing man has. They are deceptive and lie like hell. They are dishonest and have a snake like mentality. I know because I work for a marketing company. They are dishones in there personal life as well. Designers market themselves in an honest ethical way normally. "M" Yes I learned a valuable lesson. I normally am very carefull. The thing is he does not have the CD. I was not that stupid. (Maybe I explained wrong) He has only seen everything on my computer screen. The design concept was such that if you look for a bit long you could copy it to a certain extent. Let's see maybe he pays up when I break his legs ;-)