Thanks for the comments guys, Im trying hard. Yeh Mayaniac I tend to try and get the lines a little better, when I first started I didnt think about it. Now of course I realise it is important for geometry and mesh simplicity.

Im using nurbs to blockout the shapes mainly, then to polys to organise it along with sub-d to see the results. As I have said before I want to learn other forms just so you have the experience if you know what I mean? Specialist become extinct, diversifaction is the key to move forward. Lets face it there will always be a need to use something else to get a project going/finished. I use all kinds of software for my work, sometimes the one you have isnt enough, so you need to know little bits of everything.

cheers bullet