nope, still the same, it must be sumthin in one of these *.mel files in the paint effects folder---- heres the error-- // Error: Object not found: dynPaintScriptedPanel // Heres the files i found--- dynPaintEditorMenu.mel (2kb), dynPaintMenus.mel (50kb), dynPaintPanel.mel (9kb), dynPaintSwapPanelPress.mel (2kb), dynPaintToolbar.mel (24kb) I've noticed all these .mel files are programmable, but i'm no programmer The only thing i can think that may of happened is when i saved my file the first time, i did so with the painteffects panel open with a rendered tree in it, has this caused a bugged overwrite of one of these files maybe, are there any buggy issues concerning the paint panel maybe? I'm running maya 4.0