@Nilla, no worries and no offense... not too many understand the distinction between the 2 trades, but it's fun trying to explain to people well, I'm finding uv mapping to be a huge PITA got the cabinets and panels pretty much done, still have to layout the countertop border so the woodgrain flows the proper direction. cabinets made from South African Bubinga, doors/panels are from South African Wenge I switched the top with inset Bubinga and border Wenge to add to the overall contrast of the grains/colours. Still have to model the monitor stand, and might just remodel the counter support while I'm at it..... but this is the farthest I've made it with any model I've attempted yet comments/crits welcomed.