Hey Coldwave how are you ? " Keep it up this must go till the end " - I get the feeling that this project will be the end of me indeed LOL. And thanks for the crits, you are absolutely right. On my defense I will say that I don't intend to make a 100% bodysculpt which resembles the work of Michealangelo, it's just so that I get a feel if the proportions are right and got a bit carried away with the detailing ( ZBrush has that effect I've heard ) So: I have tweaked Indy once more in another refinement pass, showcasing my insane drive for getting the best out of it, but once more I do believe it has been a lot better for it. I have exaggerated the scar on the chin a bit so that when I do a smooth pass or whatever I don't accidentally rub out the scar, I also found that if the scar is to subtle it doesn't show in the displacement/normal -map ( in the render that is). I hope that tomorrow I will make some progress on the skindetails. ( I also hope that I get my Zbrush 4 tomorrow with GOZ in it it will make life a lot easier ) C & C is again most welcome