Thanks for that. I'm looking into body and muscle topology for my project. Yours seems to have a slightly different layout than some of the others i've seen. The edge loops seem to flow from one muscle/group into another muscle/group. Particular reference to where the chest and the shoulder meet. Its not a crit because 1: I don't know anything about correctness my self. and 2: It still seems to have produced very good (if not a little exaggerated ) muscle formation. The question is, does it perform well under deform. Have u tried it yourself, or seen any references u mite have used under deform? If not, no worries.