surfermcd, yeah sorry about the horror one. but it will see the light of day, er the dark of night sometime. thanks.

Alpha, thanks. and sure. The hardest parts of a natrual horse are : maniging the long main and tail, getting the short fur to look right in difrent shots, and the eye's are hard to get right and socketed becouse there oval not round. ... ... oh yeah there knees er wrist really have 2 rotation points, not one.