thanks bullet the tiles are actually very close to what is installed in the house where this will eventually be installed, and are from a group of textures I purchased years ago from Total Textures (bought when I was playing with Poser & Vue) the woodgrains are pictures of actual veneers I took while working at my last cabinet shop, and in the end might hinder me as if you'll look closely you'll see "chatter" marks from the planer when these were manufactured. (horizontal lines going across the panels/doors) in real life I could sand them out, but not in 3d it just might bother me too much and I'll have to decide on a different grain/color for the panels and doors, the more I look at it the more I don't like it but priority is getting my 1st model finished and looking fairly presentable am thinking seriously of trying to also model the monitors and computer, but not a necessity for this scene.