Originally posted by RayRay .. Perhaps if we all utilize the same modeling method, we could be more helpful to each other concerning problems we are having and tips and what not. .. you cannot utilize the same modeling method. you can convert anything and claim later: yes it is all in nurbs, look at my .mb file. so would i be more creative if i have 4.5 and can infact convert into nurbs??? it does not matter how you do something, only the endresult matters.