Hey NitroLiq First off, dont worry about tearing me down because all the crit you have given me has been constructive and very helpful. This is the first time I have actually done my own site, as the one before, a friend of mine did it (whos a designer too), but I really needed to know the ins and outs of web designing which is not an easy task when you're new to it, so I am taking the bull by the horns and wrestling it at the moment. I am hoping to improve it all as I'm going along ( I hope) but all the 3d side of it and the concept stuff is an absolute King over everything, but saying that I know what you mean about selling it to the viewer when they see the site. Thanks for your comments, I WILL take it all on board, in fact I may start looking at it all tomorrow as I have a free day!!! Cheers Again. RC Thats Good man, no worries _J