Thanks sparticus, I'm working on it as we speak, got down the body now, should hopefully finish the body tonight before I go get some Z's. Then the legs all day tomorrow, wings Sunday, then painting om Monday or Tuesday. I think I may have mapped the nose ok without auto or camera mapping, just a few RELAX UV's both on uniform and world space, a few tweaks to some of the individual UV's. Will post some shots tomorrow maybe.