dude arran you rock! thanks a bunch!

this program is getting easier and esier to use. Only thing I absolutely dont like is the way selection is done, to where there isnt a default. You cant like...hit esc and go back to a bsic pointer selection. You have to manually switch between tools to do anything.

This of course isnt super bad, just..i have to get use to it

Next up! Imk tryin to turn my "2d" polygon model into "3d"

I went with extrude face and it made it 3d, but it turned it into....a double sided empty box, with my original plane still in the center.

I know my book tells me how to do it, but Im at lunch at work, and im addicted. I can just look it up when im home.