horray for set driven keys
I'd IK rigged the fingers and they were jumping about a fair bit and doing wierd things when other parts up the joint chain were moving - so after a bit of digging around I figured out FK with set driven keys and now have a control for each hand that closes the fingers into a fist. I've also made some changes to the rig and am learning about all these contrain options. So now its back to the important part of the challenge - animating

Si