first i have to tell you all, i am still working on it. i just right now dont spend time for maya at all as my fiancee is visting me for a few weeks. I-Iybrid: Duck! You are modeling my FAVORITE truck. Looks damn nice so far too. I was gonna do the same, but I just never got around to doing it. Keep up the good work! well, i hope i finish this one before you try it yourself. and it was my favourite truck too. right now we (my future wife and me) think about getting a 1500 silverado instead of the dakota when i am in the states and have work. mr2turbosw20:Hi babyduck, just wonder if i can see more of the before and after subd shots of the car, just like the firsy post, thanks, and btw, i looks good!! oh, ok. did not think the before after shots are that important. i attach a picture of the last shot with before and after smooth - no change on the model done since last render. and it is no subd. i dont think i will ever put it into subd, but leave it as poly.