hey i just signed on and got the email notification . ye i had about 20 mins of experimenting with the keboard keys and ye u were right quake . i need ma F lock or/and num lock on and then press D on ma keyboard and then i can move the pivot . i found this out yesterday i woulda replied but i had a basketball tournament to go to nd a lil drinking sesh after so i didnt have ny time . thanks for all your help everyone :attn: