Thanks for the comments Guys. Bullet: I hadnt thought of downloading the trial thanks for that. but can anyone confirm, Do you render in z-brush and if so, does the trial leave watermarks over the image? I might have a play with it a bit later on but not sure if i will use it yet for this competition as I do have a pretty useless Pc at the moment so not sure it will handle it. lol. We'll see...