Nope!! I've hidden the 4 legs body and ears and nose leaving only the head and neck as the video says, iconvert the nurb head and neck into pols then delete the nurbs and all i have left is the poly head and neck, and it still doesnt work.... What does ENTER do? that'll help a little bit!!!! I guess i could go to hotkey menu and see but im on a different comp and dont hav the prog or scene to check it out. it says press enter on each object and then union. ...but i can create a new scene and create a sphere and a cylinder to see if the problems maya or my own mistake without deforming it, it will union the sphere and cylinder but if i deform it like i do by using hull or (i think)convert vertex and move the vertexes or isoparms or any geometry it will not union!!!! ~Chaos Oh yeah i love the M & M's Smoking pic!!!! thats a keeper!!!