i've tried older catalyst drivers.. Hell even soft modded the bios on the card to use the Fire gl ogl driver, still didn't fix it.. It woudl launch a few games " X 3, HL2, LFD....but it wouldn't launch other games that were ogl dependent, such is Doom 3. I think it was the card, i was just hoping you might know away around it. Plan to buy a new rig soon, i might try to bump up to a quatro or a Fire gl card when i do, depends on how the funds are. I get ready to buy it, i'm a start a thread on here with the specs that i'm looking at and see what people think as i'm not really a hardware man myself. G-man