Thanks Si - I'll take a look at that area and will give those suggestions a shot. I think I am going to put this to one side and get back in to my mtmckinley Silenus project which I stopped after I finished rigging him. After watching all the great work in this months challenge, I think it is time to start doing some animating. Here's my Silenus as he stands at the moment. Look at those crappy arm textures!