@ arran thx for you suggestion i have taken it at this looks fairly good. @gubar, the eyebrows are tubes first painted with paint effects, then converted to polygons, and then modified every pipe to the place i wanted to be. @james thx man Well here is an update i now think it is final Turntable: https://aikoworld.com/portfolio/video/digitalhuman_s.mov And here are some more images https://aikoworld.com/gallery/?level=album&id=3