wow lots of feedback! well here are my WIPs so far anyway... https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29..._bump_ship.jpg https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...sion_front.jpg https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...hip3_setup.jpg https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...ip3_setup2.jpg https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...th_ship_a1.jpg https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29.../th_ship1c.jpg I will begin to build an environment this weekend i think. I also plan to tweak the texture. i will desaturate it more. maybe make the engine more opaque and add some veins and a touch of glow. I'm going for an organis engine thing. the scale stripe will be extended down to break-up the lower front part of the ship and i will think about decals. this is the reptilian race, i forget the spelling tho. the final scene will be them fleeing their homeworld with a big expanding sun or something kicking about.